But this world PVP is for the expansion event. It’s like with WoW’s Legion event. On my PVP server there was a lot of world PVP during that event. Yes lowbie’s can be ganked but that is the risk of it. Don’t want that risk roll a PVE server.
If you’re being ganked as a lowbie you have several other zones you can go to at your level to well, level. Hell, I use to sit in towns on my rogue and offer “Gank Protection.” to lowbies, and many a times my whole guild will come in if it’s a group doing the ganking.
There’s just so many ways to deal with it. Even calling out in world chat for aid. You have no idea how many people sit around WAITING for world PVP, and calling out is like there flair to come in to action.
I played only Pvp servers because I was reading a webcomic called ‘The Noob’ before I started playing mmos.
I thought being ganked was just another immersive threat. It sucks but it makes the world more dangerous.
Then I switched to RP-Pvp servers because I love roleplaying and have since I was a small kid. It’s playing pretend with others, right?
Eventually the guild I was in forced me to pvp with them so I could get gear, only for the sake of defending capital cities with the guild.
I did it.
And soon loved it. It’s the same reason I would play Street Fighter or League of Legends. It’s not a prescripted scenario. It’s competitive.
It sucks being ganked as a lowbie, but it feels great infiltrating an Alliance City and surviving against a group of 5+ strangers chasing you down while guards shoot at you.
I just laugh and grin and “Whew, that was fun.”
Sadly I no longer play those types of servers.
The rp dried up for the most part.
Now I play on MG and WrA and honestly it gets a little boring. I miss the danger of a rival RP guild dropping in on you.
I miss hunting rare mobs, only to have to contend with a party of the opposite faction.
And there were plenty of guilds on the Rp-PVP server who hated pvp. -_- Like how much sense does that make?
But at the same time there were even more PvPers who absolutely hated RP.
I think the niche for people who want both is actually pretty low.
This… I did this as well. Started on an RP-PVP server and it went very smooth. We even had some cross faction alts to set up RP and even PVP events with the opposing faction.
How I miss the battles for Crossroads. The races to what side can kill the capital (stormwind/org) leaders first. The RP between the factions on friendly terms… My dwarf RPwise became friends with a orc during the battle for the sunwell. We’d rp in teamspeak and played together in game.
But yeah, the RP died down after so many years, then the game started to go downhill for the lot of us, most quit, or moved servers.
World PvP is basically dead in WoW. On Emerald Dream, when all the guilds massed together in these huge alliances, it became formulaic:
1) two people start shit, one loses (usually the person who started it thinking they are better than they are) and tells their guild “they are being targeted by X guild” and need help
2) their guild sends some to help, other guild sends some, multi-guild alliances are called in when one guild ends up losing as “we can’t let horde/alliance win this”
3) 2-3 raid groups clash on each side and maneuver to a choke point, they spew AoE into a like a fucking doorway for the next handful of hours.
Next one of two things happens:
4A) one side has may more than than the other and clobbers them. These 1500 rated heroes then suck each other dicks talk about how great they are and go shit talk on forums. The biggest shit talker is usually the one who started it and got their ass kicked.
4B) If the numbers are roughly the same, one side eventually either finds a way round the choke point (this used to be the guild teleport thing till removed) and kills the other or more likely one side gets impatient and is obliterated as they try to push through the aoe spammed choke point. Once again, the winners will shit talk on the forums despite most them being as skilled at PVP as chimpanzee slinging shit at a computer screen.
5) Lastly people from the losing side suddenly have to “go do something irl” and their raids will disband. The losing side will blame the loss on “this person having to go” and go to defend themselves on the forum with a plethora of excuses, none of which will include the base notion that large scale W-PVP has nothing to do with individual skills and is 99% of the time a basic math equation of X > Y with X being the number of people you can bring to the table (logistics rather than skill).
6) Have the cycle repeat the next day when the same shitlords from either faction go out and pick fights with people better than them.
You also didn’t even get this far if you weren’t in a guild in one of these huge multi-guild federations. If you were a smaller guild and you hit someone from one of these guilds, you’d probably be swarmed with no chance of victory. Talk shit on the forums as a small guild, even in RP? Next day, the huge guilds are send pittance forces to camp your ass into oblivion (admittedly, you’d probably deserve it for poking the bear).
Sure, you can get your occasional small scale stuff, but if you ever get good at it or gain a high rating in arenas or RBGs or something and make a name for yourself, every shitter on the enemy faction will be /who-ing your ass and coming to get a piece when you enter contested territory on a regular basis.
It’s fun for a good long time, but after having done countless zerg fests and small scale fights, you just get jaded on it and tired of it. Having spent 8 years as a hardcore PVPer on an RP-PVP and on a PVP server, I can tell you that it gets boring. I played WoW consistently for those 8 years (you have to keep playing to keep your skills up for arenas and RBGs) while most everyone else I knew would come and leave with the expansions or with various patches. They’re all fresh faced, excited to get back into that PVP/gankfest mode. They’re excited about these “epic” server crashing w-pvp raid battles.
SO to the point of all this: This dude, grey-hair, has been here they entire time Vedrana was away. Who the hell know what this guy has been dealing with in the mean time? Is the enemy faction 3-1 when it musters and just keeps crushing them? How many times a week is he being called to go fight a enemy raids? Maybe it’s not fucking fun anymore because he spends more time trying to repel an enemy faction’s raid than he does literally anything else in the entire game all because of a decision he made years ago without the full understanding of what they would mean in the future.
TLDR: It’s easy for Vedrana to say “WHY DO YOU HATE FUN?” when she’s been gone all this time not dealing with the enemy faction’s shit every single day like grey hair has. Maybe 120 vs 120 man raids 4 times a week is god damn awful.
They also manage to organize and lock down entire zones like when Orhan got Vedrana to meet with him. The Christmas strips seem more about exploits of the holiday event than one faction beating another.
It’s only fun if you’re a Rogue with a bunch of add-ons!
The second question is the right one – not everyone loves PVP, but if you hate it that much, DON’T ROLL ON A PVP SERVER!!!
I can’t stand PVP, but that doesn’t mean I hate fun.
But, I also play on PVE servers, so…
Also, you are boring and you should feel bad!
Going more reasonable against the monster than I thought
World PVP is not fun, it’s mostly jackasses griefing lowbies
But this world PVP is for the expansion event. It’s like with WoW’s Legion event. On my PVP server there was a lot of world PVP during that event. Yes lowbie’s can be ganked but that is the risk of it. Don’t want that risk roll a PVE server.
If you’re being ganked as a lowbie you have several other zones you can go to at your level to well, level. Hell, I use to sit in towns on my rogue and offer “Gank Protection.” to lowbies, and many a times my whole guild will come in if it’s a group doing the ganking.
There’s just so many ways to deal with it. Even calling out in world chat for aid. You have no idea how many people sit around WAITING for world PVP, and calling out is like there flair to come in to action.
Yep, gotta side with Vedrana here. I hate PVP with the fury of a thousand dying suns, but because of this I do not roll on PVP servers.
If this was PVE? Seminar McTalksalot would be well within the scope of his office. But on a PVP server? Nooooooope.
I played only Pvp servers because I was reading a webcomic called ‘The Noob’ before I started playing mmos.
I thought being ganked was just another immersive threat. It sucks but it makes the world more dangerous.
Then I switched to RP-Pvp servers because I love roleplaying and have since I was a small kid. It’s playing pretend with others, right?
Eventually the guild I was in forced me to pvp with them so I could get gear, only for the sake of defending capital cities with the guild.
I did it.
And soon loved it. It’s the same reason I would play Street Fighter or League of Legends. It’s not a prescripted scenario. It’s competitive.
It sucks being ganked as a lowbie, but it feels great infiltrating an Alliance City and surviving against a group of 5+ strangers chasing you down while guards shoot at you.
I just laugh and grin and “Whew, that was fun.”
Sadly I no longer play those types of servers.
The rp dried up for the most part.
Now I play on MG and WrA and honestly it gets a little boring. I miss the danger of a rival RP guild dropping in on you.
I miss hunting rare mobs, only to have to contend with a party of the opposite faction.
And there were plenty of guilds on the Rp-PVP server who hated pvp. -_- Like how much sense does that make?
But at the same time there were even more PvPers who absolutely hated RP.
I think the niche for people who want both is actually pretty low.
This… I did this as well. Started on an RP-PVP server and it went very smooth. We even had some cross faction alts to set up RP and even PVP events with the opposing faction.
How I miss the battles for Crossroads. The races to what side can kill the capital (stormwind/org) leaders first. The RP between the factions on friendly terms… My dwarf RPwise became friends with a orc during the battle for the sunwell. We’d rp in teamspeak and played together in game.
But yeah, the RP died down after so many years, then the game started to go downhill for the lot of us, most quit, or moved servers.
*sipping hot chocolate from my not-yet-in-my-possession-Guild-Wars-2-mug*
Too bad GW2’s WvW model is basically a circlejerk of guilds server transferring to keep on top now.
World PvP is basically dead in WoW. On Emerald Dream, when all the guilds massed together in these huge alliances, it became formulaic:
1) two people start shit, one loses (usually the person who started it thinking they are better than they are) and tells their guild “they are being targeted by X guild” and need help
2) their guild sends some to help, other guild sends some, multi-guild alliances are called in when one guild ends up losing as “we can’t let horde/alliance win this”
3) 2-3 raid groups clash on each side and maneuver to a choke point, they spew AoE into a like a fucking doorway for the next handful of hours.
Next one of two things happens:
4A) one side has may more than than the other and clobbers them. These 1500 rated heroes then suck each other dicks talk about how great they are and go shit talk on forums. The biggest shit talker is usually the one who started it and got their ass kicked.
4B) If the numbers are roughly the same, one side eventually either finds a way round the choke point (this used to be the guild teleport thing till removed) and kills the other or more likely one side gets impatient and is obliterated as they try to push through the aoe spammed choke point. Once again, the winners will shit talk on the forums despite most them being as skilled at PVP as chimpanzee slinging shit at a computer screen.
5) Lastly people from the losing side suddenly have to “go do something irl” and their raids will disband. The losing side will blame the loss on “this person having to go” and go to defend themselves on the forum with a plethora of excuses, none of which will include the base notion that large scale W-PVP has nothing to do with individual skills and is 99% of the time a basic math equation of X > Y with X being the number of people you can bring to the table (logistics rather than skill).
6) Have the cycle repeat the next day when the same shitlords from either faction go out and pick fights with people better than them.
You also didn’t even get this far if you weren’t in a guild in one of these huge multi-guild federations. If you were a smaller guild and you hit someone from one of these guilds, you’d probably be swarmed with no chance of victory. Talk shit on the forums as a small guild, even in RP? Next day, the huge guilds are send pittance forces to camp your ass into oblivion (admittedly, you’d probably deserve it for poking the bear).
Sure, you can get your occasional small scale stuff, but if you ever get good at it or gain a high rating in arenas or RBGs or something and make a name for yourself, every shitter on the enemy faction will be /who-ing your ass and coming to get a piece when you enter contested territory on a regular basis.
It’s fun for a good long time, but after having done countless zerg fests and small scale fights, you just get jaded on it and tired of it. Having spent 8 years as a hardcore PVPer on an RP-PVP and on a PVP server, I can tell you that it gets boring. I played WoW consistently for those 8 years (you have to keep playing to keep your skills up for arenas and RBGs) while most everyone else I knew would come and leave with the expansions or with various patches. They’re all fresh faced, excited to get back into that PVP/gankfest mode. They’re excited about these “epic” server crashing w-pvp raid battles.
SO to the point of all this: This dude, grey-hair, has been here they entire time Vedrana was away. Who the hell know what this guy has been dealing with in the mean time? Is the enemy faction 3-1 when it musters and just keeps crushing them? How many times a week is he being called to go fight a enemy raids? Maybe it’s not fucking fun anymore because he spends more time trying to repel an enemy faction’s raid than he does literally anything else in the entire game all because of a decision he made years ago without the full understanding of what they would mean in the future.
TLDR: It’s easy for Vedrana to say “WHY DO YOU HATE FUN?” when she’s been gone all this time not dealing with the enemy faction’s shit every single day like grey hair has. Maybe 120 vs 120 man raids 4 times a week is god damn awful.
If I may intercede: The Christmas strips imply that the Legion in way underpowered in this server.
They also manage to organize and lock down entire zones like when Orhan got Vedrana to meet with him. The Christmas strips seem more about exploits of the holiday event than one faction beating another.