I mean, he’s been planning his “failsafes” for ages, but if basically any of the big metas wanted him dead, in a straight up fight he’d get rekt. But one of the persistant ideas whenever big B swacks with supes is that superman won’t go all out, and won’t kill batman, because he’s at heart, a good guy, and batman’s a bit of a dick (and superman can be a cocky arsehole sometimes, which batman uses against him as well, which is something that batman vs superman did well). Plus Batman never found out a way to defeat Wonder Woman, and most of his other “solutions” were hard to put into play, so most of the other leaguers would ruin him anyway.
“But Baman can beat anyone in a fight given enough prep time”
“OK, then the bad guy doesn’t give him prep time. You know, like almost every fight in existence; real or fake”
“Oh yea well, um”
And from this unholy union came Mud’an, part human, part hellborn, part goat. And after he became the master of everything and the Guardian of the galaxy, he decided to leave the world of RoQ to go train in a different dimension called Fridgeofbadideas.
I know its her character so its totally fine, but I never really got why people get so worked up over movies not being exact copies of their source material. Some stuff just doesn’t translate to the screen well, and other things just wouldn’t attract more than a niche crowd without changes. Disassociate movies from their source material, people.
While I’m on the topic of DC stuff, stuff being different from source material is good, variety is the spice of life, but having big differences just for the sake of distancing it from the source (LOOKING AT YOU, ARKHAM SERIES) usually feels pretty bland.
Here’s the thing, this one is totally legit. Llane wasn’t a racist or anything, he had no reason to hate Garina besides everyone of her people who’d come through before tried to kill his people. So I mean. Little bit different than this king.
Look the real problem is that we have let dirty libtard cuck globalist leave the Dark Portal completely unprotected. We need to #buildthewall and have the Horde pay for it! Make Alliance Great Again #MAGA #JainaForHighQueen
Vir: If you go to a movie and they change the “source material” (sure some change is necessary to adapt it to the movie) it become pointless. If its only niche crowd who care about the “source material” Why not just do a new unique caracter who have its own unique name insteed.
True, changing action or having to say, skip over a lot of political maneuvering that works okay in print but is clunky on screen – but switching around canonical love interests or *creating* them is a hard sell to people who liked the original characterizations enough the studio has justified making a movie.
This was not meant to be in reply to Vir, but while I’m here;
Stuff doesn’t have to be exact copies of the source material but it should probably respect the pivotal points, after all that’s what makes the story familiar and interesting. WoW movie changed a fair few of these things imo, which is why I don’t like it.
Zeryth largely covered this. I felt the need to be wordy and I should’ve been in bed an hour ago, so meh.
The biggest issues I’ve noticed that most fans have with anything to movie translations are either 1) shoehorned references, 2) severe lore-breaking or scene cutting, 3) an “re-imagining” of a character that is fundamentally hated for some reason and/or 4) forced/bland romances.
With many cases of #1, it’s usually a big brand name (like Mountain Dew) wanting more “camera time” and making themselves obnoxious as a result, or the reference requiring a stupid amount of setup and largely just gets a groan out of the audience.
With cases of #2, it’s sometimes for the sake of time, sometimes a better overall fit, but mostly a change someone in production demanded is made and it ended up being a terrible move. One possible underlying reason, even if these changes maintain a better pace in movie format, is usually because it’s “not like the original”. Another possible underlying reason is that stupid and unimportant things sometimes added or stay in (like stray lines or “time wasting scenes”), yet important things end up removed.
With cases of #3, many times the changes often detract from the appealing parts of the original character significantly to the point that it’s question of why they even bothered naming the new character after the original if they were simply going to change everything about said character.
In cases of #4, it’s often a case of the “Olde Guarde” producers/directors/actors/etc. insisting that the film would be a total flop without a romance, and without whoever it was that’s demanding the inclusion, the movie wouldn’t exist without it, but sucks with it as it is rarely paced well or organic to the script.
Sorry if this ends up being gibberish. Going to bed.
Re: #4: it always bothered me when they kissed at the end of “The Running Man”. Like, when was there time for romance?? There was no inkling throughout the whole movie that there was anything going on besides survival/escape. It just looked awkward.
#2 is especially bad when it’s a series…in books stuff may not seem that important in one but establishes itself to become hugely important later on. Harry Potter is one of the more recent examples of this(and don’t get me started on the constant changing of directors including one that hated magic and wanted as much out of the movies as they could remove). Dobby appeared more often in the books to establish that greater connection with the elf for both Harry and the reader…he was absent between his movie of appearance and the one he dies in, leaving people confused as to why Harry took it so hard
Which missed the point of the source material (itself a satire) so hard that they’re utter, irredeemable trash. Trash which refuses to die, and continues to tarnish the name of an excellent author because “I can’t satire, iz dat a nasi?”.
/lewd
Her facial expression in panel four reminds me of mine when people post stupid stuff about Batman beating every other superhero in a fight.
I mean, he’s been planning his “failsafes” for ages, but if basically any of the big metas wanted him dead, in a straight up fight he’d get rekt. But one of the persistant ideas whenever big B swacks with supes is that superman won’t go all out, and won’t kill batman, because he’s at heart, a good guy, and batman’s a bit of a dick (and superman can be a cocky arsehole sometimes, which batman uses against him as well, which is something that batman vs superman did well). Plus Batman never found out a way to defeat Wonder Woman, and most of his other “solutions” were hard to put into play, so most of the other leaguers would ruin him anyway.
What do you mean? Batman would totally put Wonder Woman to the “Sword”!
/lewd (again)
I thought Wonder Woman was the one with the sword.
Depends on which kink you’re into, really.
“But Baman can beat anyone in a fight given enough prep time”
“OK, then the bad guy doesn’t give him prep time. You know, like almost every fight in existence; real or fake”
“Oh yea well, um”
Keran’s tumblr is about to get a rant post tonight…
And from this unholy union came Mud’an, part human, part hellborn, part goat. And after he became the master of everything and the Guardian of the galaxy, he decided to leave the world of RoQ to go train in a different dimension called Fridgeofbadideas.
Let’s not forget that our “Mud’an” is also blood related to most of the powerful major characters in RoQ!
It’s true, all of it.
I know its her character so its totally fine, but I never really got why people get so worked up over movies not being exact copies of their source material. Some stuff just doesn’t translate to the screen well, and other things just wouldn’t attract more than a niche crowd without changes. Disassociate movies from their source material, people.
While I’m on the topic of DC stuff, stuff being different from source material is good, variety is the spice of life, but having big differences just for the sake of distancing it from the source (LOOKING AT YOU, ARKHAM SERIES) usually feels pretty bland.
Here’s the thing, this one is totally legit. Llane wasn’t a racist or anything, he had no reason to hate Garina besides everyone of her people who’d come through before tried to kill his people. So I mean. Little bit different than this king.
Look the real problem is that we have let dirty libtard cuck globalist leave the Dark Portal completely unprotected. We need to #buildthewall and have the Horde pay for it! Make Alliance Great Again #MAGA #JainaForHighQueen
Vir: If you go to a movie and they change the “source material” (sure some change is necessary to adapt it to the movie) it become pointless. If its only niche crowd who care about the “source material” Why not just do a new unique caracter who have its own unique name insteed.
Probably because they have passion for the source material, and it is that passion that sparked interest for said adaptation.
Additionally, “stuff that doesn’t translate to screen well” can be done thoughtfully without heavily changing character arcs.
True, changing action or having to say, skip over a lot of political maneuvering that works okay in print but is clunky on screen – but switching around canonical love interests or *creating* them is a hard sell to people who liked the original characterizations enough the studio has justified making a movie.
Keran is my flavourite character of the month.
This was not meant to be in reply to Vir, but while I’m here;
Stuff doesn’t have to be exact copies of the source material but it should probably respect the pivotal points, after all that’s what makes the story familiar and interesting. WoW movie changed a fair few of these things imo, which is why I don’t like it.
Zeryth largely covered this. I felt the need to be wordy and I should’ve been in bed an hour ago, so meh.
The biggest issues I’ve noticed that most fans have with anything to movie translations are either 1) shoehorned references, 2) severe lore-breaking or scene cutting, 3) an “re-imagining” of a character that is fundamentally hated for some reason and/or 4) forced/bland romances.
With many cases of #1, it’s usually a big brand name (like Mountain Dew) wanting more “camera time” and making themselves obnoxious as a result, or the reference requiring a stupid amount of setup and largely just gets a groan out of the audience.
With cases of #2, it’s sometimes for the sake of time, sometimes a better overall fit, but mostly a change someone in production demanded is made and it ended up being a terrible move. One possible underlying reason, even if these changes maintain a better pace in movie format, is usually because it’s “not like the original”. Another possible underlying reason is that stupid and unimportant things sometimes added or stay in (like stray lines or “time wasting scenes”), yet important things end up removed.
With cases of #3, many times the changes often detract from the appealing parts of the original character significantly to the point that it’s question of why they even bothered naming the new character after the original if they were simply going to change everything about said character.
In cases of #4, it’s often a case of the “Olde Guarde” producers/directors/actors/etc. insisting that the film would be a total flop without a romance, and without whoever it was that’s demanding the inclusion, the movie wouldn’t exist without it, but sucks with it as it is rarely paced well or organic to the script.
Sorry if this ends up being gibberish. Going to bed.
Re: #4: it always bothered me when they kissed at the end of “The Running Man”. Like, when was there time for romance?? There was no inkling throughout the whole movie that there was anything going on besides survival/escape. It just looked awkward.
#2 is especially bad when it’s a series…in books stuff may not seem that important in one but establishes itself to become hugely important later on. Harry Potter is one of the more recent examples of this(and don’t get me started on the constant changing of directors including one that hated magic and wanted as much out of the movies as they could remove). Dobby appeared more often in the books to establish that greater connection with the elf for both Harry and the reader…he was absent between his movie of appearance and the one he dies in, leaving people confused as to why Harry took it so hard
That… is what got us the Starship Troopers films.
Which missed the point of the source material (itself a satire) so hard that they’re utter, irredeemable trash. Trash which refuses to die, and continues to tarnish the name of an excellent author because “I can’t satire, iz dat a nasi?”.